nvidia decoder no tray icon runnning

I have both the NVIDIA DVD Decoder -196 and the Vista MPEG decoder shown as MCE compatible with the Decoder check utility. However I have no evidenc that it is actually the one that is running when I watch TV or Videos since there is no Icon in the tray to click on to change the Decoder settings and the image looks just the same (pretty poor) as when I set the Vista Mpeg decoder to be the preferred decoder. I have a Hauppauge 150 PVR card and onboard Intel grapics chip and a 1240x1080 Flat panel display. How can I insure that I am using the NVIDIA Decoder and how can I review and change its settings?

I have the same problem,
But I think that the nvidia codec is running and that what distorts the image is not the decoder. I'm not sure if I'm right, but I think that is the presentation layer that is rendering the image with the poor quality.
Maybe someone from Microsoft could lighten us!
Thanks, Patrick.
"JW" wrote:

I have both the NVIDIA DVD Decoder -196 and the Vista MPEG decoder shown as MCE compatible with the Decoder check utility. However I have no evidenc that it is actually the one that is running when I watch TV or Videos since there is no Icon in the tray to click on to change the Decoder settings and the image looks just the same (pretty poor) as when I set the Vista Mpeg decoder to be the preferred decoder. I have a Hauppauge 150 PVR card and onboard Intel grapics chip and a 1240x1080 Flat panel display. How can I insure that I am using the NVIDIA Decoder and how can I review and change its settings?

Do you get the Icon in the task bar so that you can change the settings of the Decoder as described in the Decoder user guide when watching TV or DVDs? I get an excellent image when using the Hauppauge WinTV 2000 application under XP on the same hardware suite so I feel that I should get at least as good with MCE. What do you mean by the presentation layer?
"gduck" wrote in message

I have the same problem,
But I think that the nvidia codec is running and that what distorts the image is not the decoder. I'm not sure if I'm right, but I think that is the presentation layer that is rendering the image with the poor quality.
Maybe someone from Microsoft could lighten us!
Thanks, Patrick.
"JW" wrote:
I have both the NVIDIA DVD Decoder -196 and the Vista MPEG decoder shown as MCE compatible with the Decoder check utility. However I have no evidenc that it is actually the one that is running when I watch TV or Videos since there is no Icon in the tray to click on to change the Decoder settings and the image looks just the same (pretty poor) as when I set the Vista Mpeg decoder to be the preferred decoder. I have a Hauppauge 150 PVR card and onboard Intel grapics chip and a 1240x1080 Flat panel display. How can I insure that I am using the NVIDIA Decoder and how can I review and change its settings?

No, I don't have the icon displayed, but I can change the audio settings and those are the ones from nvidia.
What I mean for preesentation layer is the Avalon rendering system.
I think maybe this is the responsible for the degraded quality.

"JW" wrote:

Do you get the Icon in the task bar so that you can change the settings of the Decoder as described in the Decoder user guide when watching TV or DVDs? I get an excellent image when using the Hauppauge WinTV 2000 application under XP on the same hardware suite so I feel that I should get at least as good with MCE. What do you mean by the presentation layer?
"gduck" wrote in message I have the same problem,
But I think that the nvidia codec is running and that what distorts the image is not the decoder. I'm not sure if I'm right, but I think that is the presentation layer that is rendering the image with the poor quality.
Maybe someone from Microsoft could lighten us!
Thanks, Patrick.
"JW" wrote:
I have both the NVIDIA DVD Decoder -196 and the Vista MPEG decoder shown as MCE compatible with the Decoder check utility. However I have no evidenc that it is actually the one that is running when I watch TV or Videos since there is no Icon in the tray to click on to change the Decoder settings and the image looks just the same (pretty poor) as when I set the Vista Mpeg decoder to be the preferred decoder. I have a Hauppauge 150 PVR card and onboard Intel grapics chip and a 1240x1080 Flat panel display. How can I insure that I am using the NVIDIA Decoder and how can I review and change its settings?

How do you get to the Audion settings in the Decoder? I thought that the rendering was done by the hardware acceleration of the graphics card but I guess I am wrong about that and the software control of it must be in the OS itself and the Vista version is different from the XP version is what you mean when you mention the Avalon rendering system.
"gduck" wrote in message

No, I don't have the icon displayed, but I can change the audio settings and those are the ones from nvidia.
What I mean for preesentation layer is the Avalon rendering system.
I think maybe this is the responsible for the degraded quality.

"JW" wrote:
Do you get the Icon in the task bar so that you can change the settings of the Decoder as described in the Decoder user guide when watching TV or DVDs? I get an excellent image when using the Hauppauge WinTV 2000 application under XP on the same hardware suite so I feel that I should get at least as good with MCE. What do you mean by the presentation layer?
"gduck" wrote in message I have the same problem,
But I think that the nvidia codec is running and that what distorts the image is not the decoder. I'm not sure if I'm right, but I think that is the presentation layer that is rendering the image with the poor quality.
Maybe someone from Microsoft could lighten us!
Thanks, Patrick.
"JW" wrote:
I have both the NVIDIA DVD Decoder -196 and the Vista MPEG decoder shown as MCE compatible with the Decoder check utility. However I have no evidenc that it is actually the one that is running when I watch TV or Videos since there is no Icon in the tray to click on to change the Decoder settings and the image looks just the same (pretty poor) as when I set the Vista Mpeg decoder to be the preferred decoder. I have a Hauppauge 150 PVR card and onboard Intel grapics chip and a 1240x1080 Flat panel display. How can I insure that I am using the NVIDIA Decoder and how can I review and change its settings?

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:51:42 -0700 "JW" wrote:

I have both the NVIDIA DVD Decoder -196 and the Vista MPEG decoder shown as MCE compatible with the Decoder check utility. However I have no evidenc that it is actually the one that is running when I watch TV or Videos since there is no Icon in the tray to click on to change the Decoder settings and the image looks just the same (pretty poor) as when I set the Vista Mpeg decoder to be the preferred decoder. I have a Hauppauge 150 PVR card and onboard Intel grapics chip and a 1240x1080 Flat panel display. How can I insure that I am using the NVIDIA Decoder and how can I review and change its settings?

Based on my experience, I think that's the vista decoder that is running, and not the nvidia one, even if the decoder check utility shows the nvidia one secelted.
What I did to have the nvidia decor used in vista media center was to manually edit the register. Somewhere there is a key which the preferred video decoder: i replaced the string which identifies the vista decoder with the one of the nvidia decoder. I did the same with the audio decoder. The nvidia icon is back (with all the 4 tabs), because vista media center is now actually using the nvidia decoder, audio and video.
fdq
- Andrea Ferrari - http://www.100siti.com

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:18:55 +0200 Andrea Ferrari wrote:

Based on my experience, I think that's the vista decoder that is running, and not the nvidia one, even if the decoder check utility shows the nvidia one secelted.
What I did to have the nvidia decor used in vista media center was to manually edit the register. Somewhere there is a key which the ^^^^^^

in the registry

preferred video decoder: i replaced the string which identifies the vista decoder with the one of the nvidia decoder. I did the same with the audio decoder. The nvidia icon is back (with all the 4 tabs), because vista media center is now actually using the nvidia decoder, audio and video.
fdq

Thank you Andrea that did the trick. It was interesting that NVIDIA Audio decoder was set but the Vista Video decoder was set. Hopefully the DVD check utility and the NVIDIA DVD Installer will be both updated to set the correct registry for the Vista MCE preferred decoder since they both seem to be another registry location which is unique for XP MCE.
"Andrea Ferrari" wrote in message

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 14:18:55 +0200 Andrea Ferrari <fdq@pobox.com wrote:
Based on my experience, I think that's the vista decoder that is running, and not the nvidia one, even if the decoder check utility shows the nvidia one secelted.
What I did to have the nvidia decor used in vista media center was to manually edit the register. Somewhere there is a key which the ^^^^^^ in the registry
preferred video decoder: i replaced the string which identifies the vista decoder with the one of the nvidia decoder. I did the same with the audio decoder. The nvidia icon is back (with all the 4 tabs), because vista media center is now actually using the nvidia decoder, audio and video.
fdq

Could you please post the path to the key to modify and the value to replace?
Thanks! Patrick

Search of Decoder and you will find unders software/microsoft/MediaCenter/decoder a CLSIP value for your video decoder and one for your audio decoder. Then go under NVIDIA Sofware in another aera you will find the CLSIP value for the Decoder on Your system. Copy and Past it in the media player decoder location. I didn't write down the full paths since the CLSIP value is unique on each system.
Then "gduck" wrote in message

Could you please post the path to the key to modify and the value to replace?
Thanks! Patrick

Thanks!
I will try it today.
Patrick.
"JW" wrote:

Search of Decoder and you will find unders software/microsoft/MediaCenter/decoder a CLSIP value for your video decoder and one for your audio decoder. Then go under NVIDIA Sofware in another aera you will find the CLSIP value for the Decoder on Your system. Copy and Past it in the media player decoder location. I didn't write down the full paths since the CLSIP value is unique on each system.
Then "gduck" wrote in message Could you please post the path to the key to modify and the value to replace?
Thanks! Patrick